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We live in a world driven by transactions—performance, productivity, outcomes, expectations.
But beneath every transaction… something deeper is being formed. Your identity. Your relationships. Your culture.
Your purpose. Beneath the Transaction is a podcast about that deeper work. Hosted by Chris Pineda, PhD and his wife and co-founder of Groundwork, Kenzie Pineda, this podcast brings to life the ideas from Chris’s book, Beneath the Transaction—a framework for understanding what truly drives transformation in our lives and leadership.
Together, Chris and Kenzie explore what it means to build a life that isn’t just productive—but purposeful. Drawing from leadership, organizational psychology, and indigenous wisdom, each episode invites you to slow down and reflect on what’s really shaping you beneath the surface.
Episodes move between two rhythms: Life and Leadership. Because the way you lead at work cannot be separated from how you live at home. You’ll hear conversations with leaders across industries, communities, and families—people doing the deeper work of building trust, creating culture, and living with intention.
This isn’t just a podcast. It’s an invitation. To reflect more deeply.
To lead more honestly.
To live more fully.
To choose relationship over transaction. If you’ve ever felt the gap between who you are and how you’re showing up—this is for you. Because transformation doesn’t happen alone. It takes a Tribe. And it always begins… beneath the transaction.
→ Get the book: https://a.co/d/0iQqy9zQ
→ Work with Chris: beneaththetransaction.com
Episodes
Jun 11, 2026
Jun 11, 2026
50 min
For years, Joslyn Beaver has worked at the intersection of philanthropy, healthcare, and leadership—helping organizations secure transformational gifts while building cultures rooted in trust, stewardship, and human connection.
But this conversation isn't really about fundraising.
It's about what happens when pressure, performance, and expectations tempt us to treat people like transactions.
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris sits down with Joslyn Beaver, Chief Philanthropy Officer at Benedictine and a leader with decades of experience in philanthropy and healthcare. Together they explore the tension between results and relationships, why organizational values often drift from daily behaviors, and how leaders can create cultures where people feel seen, valued, and trusted.
From transformational stories of generosity to lessons learned inside healthcare organizations, Joslyn shares practical wisdom on living your values, creating meaningful impact, and staying grounded when the pressure to perform is at its highest.
Because transformation doesn't happen through transactions.
It happens when we choose to see people as people.
🎙️ If this conversation resonated with you, share it with someone who is trying to lead, live, or make a difference with greater intention.
And if you're enjoying Beneath the Transaction, be sure to follow the show, leave a review, and join us as we explore the ideas that shape who we become.

Jun 2, 2026
Jun 2, 2026
47 min
What keeps you grounded when life starts to fall apart?
When the pressure builds…
when you feel overwhelmed…
when things feel off and you can’t quite explain why…
What actually holds you?
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, we sit down with Dominic Kolleh, a trauma-informed life coach and founder of True North Solutions, whose work focuses on helping people rebuild their lives and careers after some of their most difficult experiences.
Dominic brings over 15 years of experience working at the intersection of career development, performance, and well-being supporting individuals navigating trauma, burnout, and major life transitions, and helping organizations create cultures rooted in safety and growth.
But what makes this conversation so powerful is her perspective:
People are not defined by the hardest chapter of their lives.
Together, we explore what really happens when life feels overwhelming and how that often traces back to disconnection from our values, our purpose, and ourselves.
We talk about anchors—the things that ground us when life feels unstable and the importance of self check-ins to recognize when we’re drifting.
Because transformation doesn’t start with pushing harder.
It starts with slowing down, becoming aware, and coming back to what holds you.
This is a conversation for anyone who feels overwhelmed, out of alignment, or like they’re just trying to keep it together and is ready to find their way back.
Because leadership doesn’t start with others.
It starts with you.
Thanks for being here.
If this resonates, share it with someone who might need it.
May 26, 2026
May 26, 2026
56 min
Can you be grateful for suffering?
Not just the good moments.
Not just when things are going well.
But for the hardest parts of your life?
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, we sit down with Kathleen Patrick—former Pediatric ICU nurse turned philanthropy executive—to explore a deeper kind of gratitude… one that most people never consider.
Kathleen has spent decades leading in healthcare and philanthropy, inspiring multimillion-dollar giving and building communities rooted in generosity. But what makes her perspective so powerful isn’t just her leadership—it’s how she’s learned to see meaning in the hardest moments of life.
Together, we unpack:
- Why gratitude isn’t just a feeling, but a choice
- The neuroscience behind gratitude and how it rewires your brain
- How suffering, hardship, and adversity can actually shape purpose
- The tension between gratitude and resentment and how that choice impacts your life and leadership
Because real gratitude isn’t built in comfort.
It’s built in the moments where you have every reason not to choose it.
And that choice… can change everything.
🎙️ Beneath the Transaction is a podcast about what’s really shaping our lives and leadership—beneath performance, beneath outcomes, beneath the surface.
If you’re a leader, a parent, a partner, or someone in the middle of becoming—this conversation is for you.
👉 Listen to the full episode
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May 13, 2026
May 13, 2026
52 min
What does it take to build something successful… and still stay grounded in who you are?
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, we sit down with Melissa Solis, CEO of Inbenta and a seasoned technology executive with over 30 years of leadership experience across insurance, fintech, fraud prevention, and AI.
Melissa’s story is remarkable. As co-founder and former CEO of GIACT, she scaled the company from startup to industry leader—growing a client base of over 1,000 companies and ultimately leading to a $610 million acquisition by the London Stock Exchange. Today, she leads global AI strategy at Inbenta, helping organizations innovate while staying grounded in purpose and responsibility.
But what makes this conversation powerful isn’t just her success.
It’s how she got there.
Melissa opens up about the role adversity has played in shaping her—growing up with serious health challenges, navigating multiple surgeries, and learning how to find meaning in suffering. She shares how those experiences didn’t just build resilience—they shaped the way she leads.
We talk about authenticity, humility, and the importance of creating safe spaces where people can be vulnerable, take ownership, and grow.
Because leadership isn’t about having it all together.
It’s about being real enough for others to grow.
This conversation is about more than business or success.
It’s about becoming—and learning how to lead from a place of purpose, forgiveness, and truth.
If this resonates, take a moment and ask yourself—what has actually shaped me the most? And how is it showing up in the way I lead today?

May 8, 2026
May 8, 2026
48 min
Welcome back to Beneath the Transaction.
This week we sit down with Alix Prassas — an organizational effectiveness leader with more than two decades of experience in People & Culture, global organizational development, DEI, and change management.
But this conversation isn’t about frameworks.
It’s about the moments that shape culture quietly and powerfully.
Alix shares her journey from working in a family business to leading large-scale transformation efforts, and what she’s learned about trust, vulnerability, and accountability along the way.
Together, we explore:
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Why culture is formed beneath the surface
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How small leadership moments shape belonging
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Why vulnerability is a prerequisite for trust
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What accountability looks like when it’s rooted in relationship
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Why conversations around diversity require courage and openness
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And what it means to “have the conversation anyway”
This episode is honest. It’s practical. And it reminds us that transformation isn’t about bold declarations — it’s about consistent courage.
It takes a Tribe to practice transformation.
Let’s practice this together.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction to Culture Change
01:58 Alix's Background and Journey
06:32 The Importance of Culture in Retail
14:34 Building Trust and Vulnerability
20:25 Navigating Difficult Conversations
30:58 The Role of Accountability in Leadership
40:28 Personal Stories and Lessons Learned
50:11 Final Thoughts on Culture Transformation
May 7, 2026
May 7, 2026
58 min
What if the version of yourself you bring to work… isn’t the real you?
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, I sit down with Kendra Davenport, President and CEO of Easterseals, to talk about what it really means to lead beyond the surface.
Kendra leads an organization that impacts over 1.5 million people each year, overseeing a national network of 70 affiliates and 38,000 employees across the country. With more than three decades of experience in the nonprofit sector, her leadership has consistently been rooted in one thing:
People.
But what stood out most in this conversation wasn’t her scale—it was her willingness to go deeper.
To be vulnerable.
To be transparent.
To let people actually know her—and for her to know them.
We talk about the tension so many leaders feel—showing up professionally while leaving the personal at the door—and why the best leaders don’t operate that way.
Because culture isn’t built through policies or processes.
It’s built through relationships.
And the leaders who are willing to show up fully—
not perfectly, but honestly—
are the ones who create environments where people actually grow.
This is a conversation for leaders who want more than performance.
Who want connection.
Trust.
And something real.
Because transformation doesn’t happen at the surface.
It happens when we’re willing to be known.
If this resonates, take a moment and ask yourself—where am I holding back as a leader?
And what would it look like to show up more fully this week?
Follow Beneath the Transaction for more episodes like this. Thanks for listening!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Nonprofit Landscape
02:56 Kendra's Journey into Nonprofit Leadership
06:00 The Dichotomy of Purpose and Transaction
09:01 Transformational Leadership in Nonprofits
11:51 Creating a Supportive Work Culture
15:05 The Importance of Vulnerability in Leadership
17:58 Navigating Personal and Professional Relationships
21:03 Philosophies of Leadership and Team Dynamics
24:01 Cultural Practices and Their Impact on Relationships
33:47 The Importance of Connection in the Workplace
51:25 Building Relationships Beyond Transactions
Apr 27, 2026
Apr 27, 2026
48 min
When profit becomes the focus, something deeper starts to break.
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, I sit down with Brian Belliveau, Chief Growth Officer at Columbia Southern University, to talk about what leaders often miss when they’re trying to grow an organization.
Brian brings over 20 years of experience leading growth at scale—but what stands out most isn’t strategy. It’s how he thinks about purpose.
As a U.S. Navy veteran and former Hospital Corpsman, his leadership is grounded in service, discipline, and people. And in this conversation, he challenges a common pattern in leadership:
We move too fast to solutions…
without ever asking the deeper question—why.
We talk about how profit can quietly become the driving force behind decisions—and how, over time, that disconnects organizations from their purpose, their people, and their impact.
Because the issue usually isn’t what we’re doing.
It’s that we haven’t gone deep enough to understand why we’re doing it.
This is a conversation for leaders who want to build something that lasts—not just something that performs.
Because profit should never outweigh purpose.
And transformation only happens when we’re willing to go deeper.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background of the Podcast
00:57 Chris introduces Brian and the focus on transformation
01:56 Brian's background in higher education and leadership
03:59 The significance of purpose in organizational change
07:04 The analogy of art and understanding the 'why'
14:09 Creating purpose-driven teams and organizations
20:03 Digging deeper: The importance of asking 'why'
29:04 The role of process in reinforcing purpose
37:10 Decision-making guided by purpose
44:01 Staying committed to purpose during challenges
49:45 The deeper 'why' that pulls us forward
55:11 Practical takeaways for leaders and organizations
Apr 17, 2026

Apr 9, 2026
Apr 9, 2026
58 min
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris sits down with Arthur Soriano, a researcher exploring the Philippine and Austronesian past, present, and future.
Together, they explore what modern leadership can learn from indigenous culture—long before systems, titles, and metrics defined how we lead today.
Arthur shares insights into pre-colonial Filipino life, from systems of governance and community to the values that shaped identity, belonging, and purpose. Through oral history, cultural memory, and research, the conversation uncovers a deeper way of understanding leadership—one rooted not in control or performance, but in relationship, responsibility, and shared identity.
But this conversation isn’t just about history.
It’s about what we’ve forgotten—and what we can reclaim.
Because many of the answers we’re searching for in leadership today
have existed long before us.
And sometimes, the way forward
requires us to look back.
Chapters
00:00 Exploring Indigenous Connections
02:47 The Journey into Pre-Colonial History
05:16 The Importance of Oral History
07:48 Personal Pursuits and Cultural Identity
10:22 Discovering Ancestral Connections
12:53 Genetic Links and Austronesian Identity
15:12 Colonial Impact on Filipino Identity
17:40 Pride in Pre-Colonial Governance
20:14 Cultural Resilience and Historical Amnesia
32:43 The Loss of Knowledge and Cultural Hierarchies
34:25 Colonization and Its Impact on Indigenous Cultures
37:01 Warfare and Respect in Indigenous Societies
39:19 The Abundance of Life in Pre-Colonial Philippines
42:19 Pride in Heritage and Cultural Identity
46:35 Bridging Cultures: Lessons from Ancestry
50:06 The Importance of Ancestral Knowledge for Modern Living

Mar 30, 2026
Mar 30, 2026
55 min
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris sits down with Ben Fielder, Vice President at NCF Michigan, to explore how giving can move from transactional to transformational.
Ben has spent his career walking alongside individuals and families, helping them steward what they’ve been entrusted with and discover a deeper sense of purpose in how they live and give. With a background in church stewardship, higher education, and relationship-driven philanthropy, Ben brings a thoughtful and grounded perspective on generosity, identity, and legacy.
Together, Chris and Ben explore the connection between purpose and generosity, and how the way we give is often a reflection of who we are becoming. They talk about the importance of living intentionally, the role of faith and identity in shaping our decisions, and why community is essential for creating meaningful, lasting impact.
At its core, this conversation is about more than giving.
It’s about learning to live with purpose in the present—
and allowing that purpose to shape how we invest in others.
Because when giving becomes an expression of who we are,
it moves beyond transaction… and into transformation.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Transformation
07:05 The Transactional Nature of Philanthropy
13:02 Discovering Meaning and Identity
19:39 The Role of Generosity in Personal Fulfillment
27:51 Navigating Frugality and Faith
34:45 Understanding Collective Identity and Future
46:54 Transforming Philanthropy Through Purpose
